MET NYC A Tale of Two Sultans Part II: The Materials and Techniques of an Original Drawing by Fragonard and a Copy MARJORIE SHELLEY Sherman Fairchield Conservator in Charge of Paper Conservation The Metropolitan Museum of Art. New York 2009 Metropolitan Museum Journal 44, pp. 130-137

https://web.archive.org/web/20220911091315/https://sites.google.com/site/agevirtuel/ amateur professionell bloGspOt 3121 augsthelm polygraphicae polygraf0700polygraph Google1st SEO bloGspOt 3121 augsthelm polygraphicae polygraf0700polygraph https://0700polygraf.blogspot.com/2021/05/httpweb.html helm&helm antiquariatoErestauro Neckartal Neckar Valley Valle del Neckar Vallée du Necre dweed 1387 https://twitter.com/PeterHelm12/status/1637416308928069637 don't get me wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch? like angels do dweed dweeder dweedest <> POLYWEBINDEX <> aces faces places races traces <> MANHIGHM Full House MANNHEIM 2003 <> <> <> A Tale of Two Sultans Part II: The Materials and Techniques of an Original Drawing by Fragonard and a Copy MARJORIE SHELLEY Sherman Fairchield Conservator in Charge of Paper Conservation The Metropolitan Museum of Art. New York 2009 Metropolitan Museum Journal 44, pp. 130-137 p.136 It is indeed possible, as Stein writes the the copyist had the lithograph that Vivant Denon (1747-1825) see (Fig.3) made of A Seated Turc at his disposal to serve as a one-to-one model for the contours, as the two are identical in their taut draftmanship [13] <> NOTES p.137 12. Norman (1978b) reports that Ananoff repeated his claims regarding Fragonard's use of the tracing technique and the pantograph for changing scale in articles in Connaissance des arts (1956), Jardin des arts (1957), and La vitrine (1960) and in the introduction to volume I of his catalogue raisonné (1961). According to Norman , Ananoff was an editor at Larousse from the 1930's to the 1950's and also had a 'strong amateur interest in rocket propulsion and space travel.... M. Ananoff was self-taught as a scientist and as an art historian' She implies that he may have profited from selling copies of Fragonard drawings that he had published in his catalogue as autograph. Ananoff replied to her accusation in a letter to the editor of the London Times on April 25, 1978. <> NOTES p.137 13. The lithograph was issued prior to the availability of the type of paper used by the copyist, dismissing the possibility that the Baker drawing was by the same artist who executed the print. <> <> <> www.polygraficum.de peter august helm www.polygraphicum.de artHELMkunst recherche::research cf. Albert de La Fizelière 1873 271 PIÈCES LITHOGRAPHIQUES EXÉCUTÉES PAR VIVANT DENON Oeuvres Lithographiques du Baron Vivant Denon Paris.1873 CATALOGUE DES LITHOGRAPHIES EXÉCUTÉES PAR DENON D'APRÈS DES DESSINS DE SON CABINET ÉCOLE FRANCAISE p.74, No.239 Fragonard Un Turc assis <> BIBLIOTHÈQUE NATIONALE PARIS https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k96675603/texteBrut bloGspOt 3117 augsthelm polygraphicae polygraf0700polygraph dweed 1377 https://twitter.com/PeterHelm12/status/1636119946370400257 aces faces places races traces peter helm on denon lithographie catalogues don't get me wrong https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=vveI8BNCCX8&fbclid=IwAR14ODfa5DzeovbNFx41P59hmRbTjfVPB9y4OCacOMSVw9FK4nY8EI0JqFw like angels do PERRIN STEIN Curator, Drawings & Prints . The Metropolitan Museum of Art A Tale of Two Sultans Part I : Fragonard's Real & Fake METROPOLITAN MUSEUM JOURNAL Vol.44 (2009) pp. 121-129 (9 pages) Published by the University of Chicago Press [jstor / stable / 25699108] p.124 fig.3 After Jean-Honoré Fragonard . The Sultan , ca. 1816-26 Lithograph 14 1/2 x 11 in. (37x26cm) PROUTÉ COLLECTION . PARIS https://www.jstor.org/stable/25699108?read-now=1&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents cf. Exemplaire collection HELM&HELM sammlung {368x283mm TC / resp. 386x283mm avec la lettre / papier 470x330mm }

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Fragonard père del. Tiré du Cabinet de Mr. Denon {Dn.F.} Da. Ft. 368x283mm TC / [386x283mm avec la lettre / Papier Dimensions 470x330mm

Essai au Crayon à la Plume et à l'Estompe fait à la lithographie (Senefelder) de munich le 15 (Septembre) 9re 1809 Denon

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<> Exemplaire de haute Curiosité. Notes by Perrin Stein Curator, Drawings&Prints The Metropolitan Museum of Art A Tale of Two Sultans Part I : Fragonard's Real & Fake Metropolitan Museum Journal 44, pp 121-129 ( 9 pages) New York 2009 p.121 ...indeed Rosenberg Paris 1987/88 New York supplied an important piece of evidence illuminating the work of the forger: a photograph of a rare lithograph showing Fragonard's composition in reverse (Fig.3) The lithograph had its origins in an ambitious publishing project undertaken in 1816 by Dominique-Vivant Denon who was a collector as well as an artist and curator and wished toward the end of his life to immortalize his collection through a set of prints [1816/307 lithographs). The resulting four-volume Monuments des Arts du Dessin chez les Peuples tant anciens que modernes, recueillies par le Baron Vivant Denon which included 307 plates, saw the light of day only in 1829 four years after Denon's death (6). Although the lithograph after Fragonard's Sultan drawing does not appear in the published volumes , it survives in a few loose examples, suggesting at that some point the intention was to include it (7). The lithograph itself need not have been seen in the Monuments des Arts du Dessin, however, for the names of the maker and the collector of the drawing to have been known: the lettering on the print identifies both the artist 'Fragonard père del.' [Fragonard the elder](8), and the collection: 'Tiré du Cabinet de Mr. Denon' ( From the Collection of Monsieur Denon). Presumably using this lithograph as a model - for the dimensions of the motifs are identical - the forger cleverly created his drawing in reverse direction, perhaps with the aid of transmitted light (9) and added at the lower right a stamp (Fig.4) imitating Lugt 779 Denon (Fig.5) Note 7 p.128 In the Catalogue of the Denon Sale 1826, lot 729 - Fragonard's Sultan drawing was marked with an asterix, indicating that the sheet had been lithographed. Note 17 The catalogue of the Desmarets 'Cassation de Commerce' Sale, Paris, March 17, 1797 and days following (Lugt 5555) lists a framed drawing by Fragonard as lot 85 'Un Turc assis, dessin lavé au bistre, sur papier blanc - hauteur 14 pouces, largeur 10 pouces 1/1' which seems likely to be the drawing that entered Denon's Collection. I thank Carole Blumenfeld for bringing this citation to my attention. Perrin Stein. Bibliography p.129 Geraldine Norman Investigative Sale Room Correspondent for The Times.London 1978a 'More than 30 *Fragonard* Deawings Maybe Fakes' and 'Fragonard Charm Inspired Copyists for 200 Years' Times (London) March 8, pp.1, 5. 1978b 'When a Fragonard Copy looks Fast too Good to be True Times (London) March 9, p.12 <> {368x283mm TC / resp. 386x283mm avec la lettre / papier 470x330mm } Lithographie en revers du Dessin originale de Fragonard vendu 1797 à Paris Pas Publié aux Monuments des Arts du Dessin. Existent seulement quelques exemplaires singulaires. En conséquent De la plus grande Rareté collection HELM&HELM sammlung <>

After Jean-Honoré Fragonard . The Sultan , ca. 1816-26 Lithograph 14 1/2 x 11 in. (37x26cm) PROUTÉ COLLECTION . PARIS

Indeed Rosenberg supplied an important piece of evidence illuminating the work of the forger : a photograph of a rare lithograph showing Fragonard's composition in reverse.(Fig.3) <> PERRIN STEIN Frago Sultans JSTOR https://www.jstor.org/stable/25699108?read-now=1&seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents NOTES & BIBLIOGRAPHY

<> MANHIGHM Full House MANNHEIM 2003 <> blogger augsthelm polygraphicae polygraf0700polygraph <> Fragonard père del. Tiré du Cabinet de Mr. Denon {Dn.F.} Da Ft. De Haute Curiosité ::: RRR * cf. Dagneau Lithograph BM LONDON Dagneau Lithographer https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1900-1231-5441 https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1856-0209-946 <> <> <> AGEVIRTUEL sites.google.com/site/agevirtuel MaltaSEO https://web.archive.org/web/20201012195419/https://sites.google.com/site/maltaseo/lithographie NewYorkSEO sites.google.com/site/neuyorkseo LondonSEO sites.google.com/site/londraseo ParisSEO sites.google.com/site/0700polygraf Google1st sites.google.com/site/arthelmkunst/recherche-research artHELMkunst recherche::research https://0700polygraf.blogspot.com/2021/05/httpweb.html SALES&SERVICES https://sites.google.com/site/manhighm MANHIGHM Full House https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/faces-coloured-art-heidelberg-ihk-1-ma-peter-a-helm/7821415 MÜNCHEN IHK AKADEMIE sites.google.com/site/0700monacodibaviera November 2002 Monaco di Baviera MANNHEIM Chambre de Commerce https://sites.google.com/site/manhighm/now-then Mai 2003 https://0700polygraf.blogspot.com/2023/03/perrin-stein-frago-sultans-jstor.html blogger augsthelm polygraphicae polygraf0700polygraph Fragonard père del. Tiré du Cabinet de Mr. Denon {Dn.F.} Da Ft. De Haute Curiosité ::: RRR Exemplaire de haute Curiosité. Notes by Perrin Stein Curator, Drawings&Prints The Metropolitan Museum of Art A Tale of Two Sultans Part I : Fragonard's Real & Fake Metropolitan Museum Journal 44, pp 121-129 ( 9 pages) New York 2009 p.121 ...indeed Rosenberg Paris 1987/88 New York supplied an important piece of evidence illuminating the work of the forger: a photograph of a rare lithograph showing Fragonard's composition in reverse (Fig.3) The lithograph had its origins in an ambitious publishing project undertaken in 1816 by Dominique-Vivant Denon who was a collector as well as an artist and curator and wished toward the end of his life to immortalize his collection through a set of prints [1816/307 lithographs). The resulting four-volume Monuments des Arts du Dessin chez les Peuples tant anciens que modernes, recueillies par le Baron Vivant Denon which included 307 plates, saw the light of day only in 1829 four years after Denon's death (6). Although the lithograph after Fragonard's Sultan drawing does not appear in the published volumes , it survives in a few loose examples, suggesting at that some point the intention was to include it (7). The lithograph itself need not have been seen in the Monuments des Arts du Dessin, however, for the names of the maker and the collector of the drawing to have been known: the lettering on the print identifies both the artist 'Fragonard père del.' [Fragonard the elder](8), {8}and the collection: 'Tiré du Cabinet de Mr. Denon' ( From the Collection of Monsieur Denon). Presumably using this lithograph as a model - for the dimensions of the motifs are identical - the forger cleverly created his drawing in reverse direction, perhaps with the aid of transmitted light (9) and added at the lower right a stamp (Fig.4) imitating Lugt 779 Denon (Fig.5) Note 7 p.128 In the Catalogue of the Denon Sale 1826, lot 729 - Fragonard's Sultan drawing was marked with an asterix, indicating that the sheet had been lithographed. Note 17 The catalogue of the Desmarets 'Cassation de Commerce' Sale, Paris, March 17, 1797 and days following (Lugt 5555) lists a framed drawing by Fragonard as lot 85 'Un Turc assis, dessin lavé au bistre, sur papier blanc - hauteur 14 pouces, largeur 10 pouces 1/1' which seems likely to be the drawing that entered Denon's Collection. I thank Carole Blumenfeld for bringing this citation to my attention. Perrin Stein. Bibliography p.129 Geraldine Norman Investigative Sale Room Correspondent for The Times.London 1978a 'More than 30 *Fragonard* Deawings Maybe Fakes' and 'Fragonard Charm Inspired Copyists for 200 Years' Times (London) March 8, pp.1, 5. 1978b 'When a Fragonard Copy looks Fast too Good to be True Times (London) March 9, p.12 <> {368x283mm TC / resp. 386x283mm avec la lettre / papier 470x330mm } Lithographie en revers du Dessin originale de Fragonard vendu 1797 à Paris Pas Publié aux Monuments des Arts du Dessin. Existent seulement quelques exemplaires singulaires. En conséquent De la plus grande Rareté collection HELM&HELM sammlung CHRISTIE'S CATALOGUES LONDONSEO NEWYORKSEO SOTHEYBUY Lit.: A Tale of Two Sultans Part II: The Materials and Techniques of an Original Drawing by Fragonard and a Copy MARJORIE SHELLEY Sherman Fairchield Conservator in Charge of Paper Conservation The Metropolitan Museum of Art. New York 2009 Metropolitan Museum Journal 44 p.136 It is indeed possible, as Stein writes the the copyist had the lithograph that Vivant Denon (1747-1825) see (Fig.3) made of A Seated Turc at his disposal to serve as a one-to-one model for the contours, as the two are identical in their taut draftmanship [13] <> NOTES p.137 12. Norman (1978b) reports that Ananoff repeated his claims regarding Fragonard's use of the tracing technique and the pantograph for changing scale in articles in Connaissance des arts (1956), Jardin des arts (1957), and La vitrine (1960) and in the introduction to volume I of his catalogue raisonné (1961). According to Norman , Ananoff was an editor at Larousse from the 1930's to the 1950's and also had a 'strong amateur interest in rocket propulsion and space travel.... M. Ananoff was self-taught as a scientist and as an art historian' She implies that he may have profited from selling copies of Fragonard drawings that he had published in his catalogue as autograph. Ananoff replied to her accusation in a letter to the editor of the London Times on April 25, 1978. <> NOTES p.137 13. The lithograph was issued prior to the availability of the type of paper used by the copyist, dismissing the possibility that the Baker drawing was by the same artist who executed the print. <> <> <> www.polygraficum.de peter august helm www.polygraphicum.de artHELMkunst recherche::research cf. Albert de La Fizelière 1873 271 PIÈCES LITHOGRAPHIQUES EXÉCUTÉES PAR VIVANT DENON Oeuvres Lithographiques du Baron Vivant Denon Paris.1873 CATALOGUE DES LITHOGRAPHIES EXÉCUTÉES PAR DENON D'APRÈS DES DESSINS DE SON CABINET ÉCOLE FRANCAISE p.74, No.239 Fragonard Un Turc assis

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<> <> <> www.polygraficum.de peter august helm www.polygraphicum.de artHELMkunst recherche::research cf. Albert de La Fizelière 1873 271 PIÈCES LITHOGRAPHIQUES EXÉCUTÉES PAR VIVANT DENON Oeuvres Lithographiques du Baron Vivant Denon Paris.1873 CATALOGUE DES LITHOGRAPHIES EXÉCUTÉES PAR DENON D'APRÈS DES DESSINS DE SON CABINET ÉCOLE FRANCAISE p.74, No.239 Fragonard Un Turc assis BIBLIOTHÈQUE NATIONALE DE FRANCE https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k96675603/texteBrut https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/hassel1810

MUSÉE DENON Le cabinet de M. Denon / collectionneur et lithographe CATALOGUE Marie-Anne Dupuy-Vachey Marie-Hélène Girard Benoît Maisonneuve Juliette Barbarain Avignon/Chalon-sur-Saône 2005 p.89, 62. Da. d'après un dessin* de Jean-Honoré FRAGONARD. (Grasse 1732-Paris,1806) Turc assis Lithographie 36,5 x 28 cm Inv. 2005.0.2.40 en dessous : Fragonard père del.; Da Ft. / Tiré du Cabinet de Mr. Denon *Bibl.: vente Denon, Paris, 1826, no.729, p.177; cat. exp. Grand Palais, 1987, no. 178, fig.1 <> Marie-Anne Dupuy-Vachey est historienne de l'art. Elle a travaillé durant de longues années au Louvre auprès de Pierre Rosenberg et elle a participé à l'exposition Fragonard de 1987-1988 au Grand Palais puis au Metropolitan Museum de New York. Elle est commissaire de l'exposition Fragonard. Les Plaisirs d’un siècle.

SAUR BBI 2,823; SAUR AKL 23,392; Lith. für Dominique Vivant Denon IFF,Après 1800 V.1949; Th-B 8, 1913 <> The Lithographer Da Ft. most probably Henri(y) Dagneau https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1900-1231-5441

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cf. PERRIN STEIN with contributions by Marie-Anne Dupuy-Vachey. Eunice Williams. Kelsey Brosnan CATALOGUE THEMET MUSEUM NYC 2016 FRAGONARD DRAWING TRIUMPHANT Works from New York Collections p.182-183, 57. The Sultan 1774 Brush and brown wash over black chalk underdrawing 14 1/4 x 11 1/4 in. (36.2 x 28.6 cm) Inscription: at lower right, in pen and brown ink, 'Roma / 1774'; at lower right, stamped in black ink with the collector's mark of Baron Dominique Vivant Denon (Lugt 779) SELECTED REFERENCES: Ananoff 1961-70, vol.2 (1963), p.80, no.758, fig.209; Rosenberg 2006, p.154, under cat. no.84, fig.85; Shelley 2009; Stein 2009, fig.2. PERRIN STEIN FRAGONARD DRAWING TRIUMPHANT Originals, Copies, Mirrors, and Multiples p.47-69 'A little water, a little bistre, a wave of thd hand--and the trick is done,' so goes the description of Fragonard's drawing technique offered by the Goncourt brothers in 1880. [84] p.68, Fig.61
p.68-69 After Jean-Honoré Fragonard. The Sultan, 20th century. Brush any brown wash over traces of graphite, 14 5/8 x 10 7/8 in. (36.9 x 27.6 cm). The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York, Bequest of Walter C. Baker, 1971 (1972.118.213)

FRITS LUGT Amsterdam/Maartensdijk (prov. d'Utrecht) juin 1921 LES MARQUES DES COLLECTIONS CLASSEMENT Première partie (d'en cinq divisions) Pages 1-505 Noms et inscriptions en toutes lettres, et initiales séparées ou monogrammées. p.139-141 Baron D. VIVANT-DENON (1747-1825) Directeur Général des Musées Impériaux, graveur et écrovain, Paris -- Estampes et dessins (Lugt 779) noir recto (Lugt 780)

* Da Ft. Dagneau fec. cf. BM LONDON Dagneau Lithographs BM LONDON Dagneau Lithographer https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1900-1231-5441 https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/P_1856-0209-946 <> amateur professionell <> bloGspOt 3163 augst helm polygraphicae polygraf0700polygraph don't get me wrong dweed 1420 https://twitter.com/PeterHelm12/status/1646531925685993473 aces bvs faces kst places races traces value Google1st MA marketing pr roi sem seo ses www web archives <>

Marie-Anne Dupuy-Vachey est historienne de l'art. Elle a travaillé durant de longues années au Louvre auprès de Pierre Rosenberg et elle a participé à l'exposition Fragonard de 1987-1988 au Grand Palais puis au Metropolitan Museum de New York. Elle est commissaire de l'exposition Fragonard. Les Plaisirs d’un siècle.